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Gritty Gal Marketing: Harnessing Authentic Storytelling and Community in Modern Marketing
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What if the secret to successful marketing lies not in trendy tactics but in the timeless art of storytelling? Join us as we chat with Jenny and Raebecca, the creative forces behind Gritty Gal Marketing, who share their journey of blending authenticity with strategy across industries like construction, retail, real estate, and healthcare. From their Charleston and New York roots, these marketing mavens illuminate how they craft genuine connections with audiences, all while managing the delightful chaos of being "girl moms" and co-hosting their podcast, "Marketing and Mayhem."
Listen in as we explore the refreshing honesty that Jenny and Raebecca bring to the marketing world, choosing real stories over influencer pizzazz. They discuss the crucial balance of consistency and authenticity, especially in our AI-laden, fast-paced digital landscape. Learn about their hands-on approach to creative photography in the construction industry and the trust it fosters with clients, all wrapped in humor and camaraderie. Plus, gain insights into their partnership dynamics and how self-care fits into their vibrant lives.
Get ready for heartfelt revelations on setting boundaries and growing personally and professionally in a supportive community. Jenny and Raebecca discuss the importance of aligning with clients who share their passion for storytelling and authenticity. With lively anecdotes and community tales, this episode promises a delightful mix of humor, wisdom, and inspiration for navigating the marketing landscape with heart and genuine connection.
Presenting Sponsor: Charleston Radio Group
Title Sponsor: Charleston American Marketing Association
Cohosts: Stephanie Barrow, Mike Compton, Darius Kelly, Kim Russo
Produced and edited: rūmbo Advertising
Photographer: Kelli Morse
Art Director: Taylor Ion
Outreach: Lauren Ellis
CAMA President: Margaret Stypa
Score by: The Strawberry Entrée; Jerry Feels Good, CURRYSAUCE, DBLCRWN, DJ DollaMenu
Voiceover by: Ellison Karesh
Studio Engineer: Brian Cleary
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Welcome to the Charleston Marketing Podcast, powered by the Charleston American Marketing Association and broadcasting from our home at Charleston Radio Group. Thanks to CRG, we're able to talk with the movers and shakers of Charleston, from economy to art, from hospitality to tech and everything in between. These leaders have made a home here in the Lowcountry. They live here, they work here, they make change here.
Speaker 2:Why? Let's talk about it. Hey, welcome to the charleston marketing podcast. Powered by the charleston marketing association, we are recording in the charleston radio group studios. Big supporters of camma gotta give a big shout out to charleston's favorite dj, dj jerry Good, with the beats at the beginning. Thanks to all of our supporters. Hey guys, stephanie Barrow here, the founder of Stephanie Barrow Consulting, a digital marketing strategy agency located here in Charleston, and I am your Camo Pass president. I'm excited to be joined by two very special guests who happen to be good friends of mine. This is Jenny and Rebecca, the founders of Greedy Gal Marketing. Ladies say hey, hi.
Speaker 2:This is that fun part where I get to I like the hey, that's making my day All right, cool, all right. We're going to roll into like the awkward part now where I get to talk about all of your accomplishments in front of you and you get to just grin and bear it. So here we go. All right, guys, meet Jenny and Rebecca, two marketing veterans with over 40 years of combined experience across industries like construction, retail, real estate, mergers and acquisitions and healthcare. Basically, they've seen it all. Now they're channeling the expertise that Gritty Gal Marketing where they believe in building relationships and not just closing deals. Their bold, authentic and customized strategies fuel organic growth because they know that cookie cutter solutions don't work.
Speaker 2:Gritty Gow is all about helping business owners rediscover their passion, clarify their vision and craft stories that resonate. They work with businesses that know that they need marketing but don't know where to start, or those who didn't know they needed to tell a story to tell, like commercial builders or real estates. Gritty growl ensures this. Businesses don't just stand out, they make people fall in love with what they do. Oh my god, I love that. When they're not creating game changing marketing strategies, they're busy raising daughters. Hooray, shout out to all the girls uh volunteering for pta and co-hosting the marketing and mayhem podcast where they talk about life, business and that beautiful mayhem all in between look at you, ladies.
Speaker 2:I'm tired just killing it y'all are. Y'all are making me tired. I thought I had a lot on my plate to like. Talk about how awkward bios are dude I read these in front of people and I just feel like, wow, they just are feeling very accomplished. I really need to up my game. I feel like you're all people there needs to be like y'all what is happening.
Speaker 3:There needs to be a caveat that's like let's name like the stupidest thing you've ever done. Or how many speeding tickets have you?
Speaker 4:had, there you go. So it's just, it's, it's just. I'm only one.
Speaker 3:Seating ticket.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely I don't think. That's impressive.
Speaker 2:I'm the one that people honk at.
Speaker 4:I like my. Flintstone feet out and I'm like hanging out because I'm thinking about things. I'm like, oh my gosh, oh, I'm like 20 miles under. I am the absolute worst.
Speaker 2:Ps. My mom is in the audience today in the mail every time portsmouth, virginia. Thank you for the hundred dollar speeding ticket from a couple weeks ago. You're biased. I had. I had my like christmas reindeers all there. They sent me the picture. I'm like that's my car, so there it goes. Good job, yep, that's me, that's me. It was the grinch you gave me. It was 100, the grinch that's now. Are you ladies from charleston? I am Born here, which is very, which is which makes the accent so authentically low country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love her accent. It feels very strong. I feel more southern talking to you, do you?
Speaker 3:I do, I like it. Oh god, I get my husband's from Florida. He gives me a really hard time about it. He says it's better than it used to be when I first met you. Is that a compliment? No, I love it.
Speaker 4:No, it gets stronger too. There are definitely moments like when we're re-recording something I was going to say. When we're re-recording or like something happens, I should be like, oh darn.
Speaker 2:Oh darn, I like it. What does that mean, that's so cute?
Speaker 4:Oh darn.
Speaker 2:Now, you're not from here. No, I'm from New York. That's what I thought.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, but I've been here 11 years, so it's home, and my kids were born here. Yes, so, they're technically natives. Yes, so yeah, I've been here forever.
Speaker 2:Yes, so people who don't know these two lovely ladies you need to obviously check out their podcast Marketing and Mayhem. But we're, we're marketing badasses. Well, obviously, but we're also girl moms which is which is amazing.
Speaker 4:I know there is a special badge for that and I'm sure the boy moms have it too. Yes, because I have a sister-in-law that has boys and like that is a different kind of chaos, right, but the girl mom chaos like we're this is a pretty special pond that we swim in.
Speaker 2:I like girl, mom, absolutely absolutely yeah, now, since you've been here for 11 years, have most of your marketing experience been here?
Speaker 4:in Charleston? Yeah for sure. I mean, I went to school at the University of Buffalo for marketing also. Nice. So like go Bills yeah yeah yeah, go Bills, go Bills. Yeah, that's awesome. So I've done my fair share of snow and cold days, hardcore mafia, but yeah, went. Hardcore mafia, but yeah, went to school for that. Yeah, definitely was in that space and then, you know how your life sort of takes you in different directions 100 for sure, so you learn these different niche things.
Speaker 4:That's how I ended up in retail for a long time. Okay, some of those things, but, yes, a lot of well. Our co-experience, of course, is here together yes, exactly now.
Speaker 2:You've been doing marketing here too. For this whole time I've done.
Speaker 3:I've done it nationally truthfully. So've done it a little bit everywhere. When I was in mergers and acquisitions we helped sell businesses everywhere across the US so and then most of my background is in South Carolina, though. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. Mergers and acquisitions it's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3:I know right. You know I mean making a business look good enough to sell. Yeah, Talk about that's impressive dude yeah, it's fun, though it's fun.
Speaker 2:Now, how did y'all become friends? Was it through your kids, or through your marketing background, or like all the things the girls went to preschool?
Speaker 3:together. Oh, I love that. Yeah, and our daughters hit it off.
Speaker 2:Of course, because their daughters are the sweetest.
Speaker 4:Well, this is like the thing. Like, so you have the same. Our kids were in preschool, and preschool is really wild.
Speaker 2:It is wild, and so both of our kids didn't like that so they would be like over in the corner we all have like quiet, sweet daughters, just ps for all of our listeners. And that doesn't mean that they're easy, it just means that they are.
Speaker 4:They're emotional in a different way, oh yeah tender, but like when all the other kids were like acting just that mob mentality of like preschool, right, right, they were like actually that's not for us and they would completely separate. So that's how they became friends. Okay, and so then you just decided to do marketing together. Even before we were friends. I was going to say we were friends when this started. Oh, you were not friends. No, we were friendly, we knew each other. Okay, got it. But we.
Speaker 3:You didn't like, hang out no, no never, no, and then you just were like we just knew. So obviously social media you, yes, you know.
Speaker 2:I ventured say you can learn a lot, oh, talking about social media, this girl beside me, rebecca, just kills it on social media and god love her because I she just is, so I just don't love. You are awesome. I always brag on her because I've been in marketing for what? 20 plus years and I still don't feel comfortable, like here I am in the car.
Speaker 3:It makes me sweat On my way to this.
Speaker 2:Get ready with me Same 100%, but I also, to be fair.
Speaker 4:I don't do any of that. No, you don't, because I would feel Very alienated by that Right and I'm like waiting For the day that the term Like influencer Just dies out, because I think we're actually getting.
Speaker 1:There we are. I think we're probably 18 months from that.
Speaker 4:Oh, I will put it on paper. This is a 2025 Marketing strategy?
Speaker 2:Yes, it is, don't have just An influence marketing.
Speaker 4:I think we're starting to see that that lack of authenticity doesn't feel good, right, and so I. I really. I maybe did two dances, but I've never done a get ready with me, I've never together.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, you have danced together we have. Yes, very cute, very fun.
Speaker 2:Thank you your sleepover party look like.
Speaker 3:I should have been invited.
Speaker 4:We love a sleepover, we do and she'll give me like a heat sometimes like you're social media right now, this very chaotic for me I'm like it feels very on brand for my.
Speaker 3:I like it. Yeah, we're very different, like I'm, so I'm like you. I don't love it it just makes me. I just I like to celebrate my clients, I don't like to celebrate myself same, I like to be the wizard behind the curtain, but I need to be better about it, and so I don't know to celebrate myself. Same, I like to be the wizard behind the curtain, but I need to be better about it.
Speaker 4:But I also don't know if I celebrate myself, what I really do is I air my dirty laundry. There you go. So I really like. So if my dog has an accident in the house, I'm like y'all will not believe this, right, because I'm just like that idea of being so picture perfect. I cannot stand.
Speaker 2:So I like really. But what you're doing now is you're taking some of this now, you're putting it into your marketing with your clients.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker 3:So that's what you do. Yeah, that is exactly Because business doesn't have to be so serious, right and that is my elevator pitch for you.
Speaker 2:Girls Like y'all are authentically yourselves, yeah, and you're teaching your clients and the small business that you help to authentically themselves, totally, yeah, I love it. It's that simple, it is, it seems that simple, but it's so hard to master that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, we sit in meetings all the time where people are like well, we don't really know our story. That's not true, yeah. That can't possibly be true, but we will get it out of you.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, a lot of people call it curious. My husband calls it nosy, but we ask a lot of questions numerous stories there.
Speaker 2:So you just got to dig and get it, yeah, and then you become emotionally invested in the story you're telling because you're invested in the people that you're helping. We get invested in everything.
Speaker 4:Everything. That's the fun of us. That's how we get your story, because it could be. Whether it's like a pet adoption or whatever, it is Right. Once we put our foot in the water, we are all the way in the tub. I love it. Could be PTA, yeah, could be gymnastics or cheer, I know we're buying the $200 of makeup and hair care. There isn't a single thing that we do, that. We do a little, which is unfortunate and also incredible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is like we're all in.
Speaker 4:How do you not get burnout? Yeah, no, I think so. We actually are really big on self-care. Okay, one thing that we like to do is we don't sleep.
Speaker 2:It's super important to us that we don't. The older I get, the more sleep I require.
Speaker 3:Same, same. She texts me at midnight. I'm like you know, I go to bed at like 9.
Speaker 2:I'm like a 9.30-er, but.
Speaker 3:I text her at like 4 o'clock in the morning. She's like you know, I don't.
Speaker 4:We try not to drink any water we only fuel with caffeine. Like I'm like totally kidding, I know, but there's a certain amount of like. No, I hear you. It's like I put my kids to bed and I open my computer back up and I'm like, here we go, we love it though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we really do. That's how I operate too.
Speaker 3:We love the marketing. We love showing our daughters that, hey, you have to go work for somebody like everybody else does.
Speaker 2:I was having this conversation with my mom on the way over here today, where I was, like I was, you know, whenever she's like, always like you know. You need to get off your phone.
Speaker 4:I'm home now. I'm like we get some of that feedback.
Speaker 2:I'm like child you're not in an after school program, you're with your mother. I saw you get off the bus. I was at your school volunteering and I'm gonna be at all your cheer. Things like that's gonna have to be enough.
Speaker 4:I think it's important to be that for like no, I'm really glad you're saying that, because the guilt of like the get off your phone and that doesn't happen every day, right, there's a sting there and for sure, when it happens I'm like but wait a second, because, like we have so much time together, I'm your mystery reader. I'm go go green for the color run oh yeah, for now until forever yeah, yeah, by the way, is a giant commitment.
Speaker 4:It's a big commitment and then, but then there'll be times where they're like some of the moms are at school more than you. I'm like it's not possible. Yeah, and I was like and I always go like they probably don't work.
Speaker 2:You know, and I'm the mom showing up like in the manatee, onesie with no bra drop. I'm like get off of school, pray and I don't get pulled over. No, no, no.
Speaker 4:I actually have named my look because it's important to me, I will go full. Gary Busey.
Speaker 2:Oh, there you go.
Speaker 4:I look like I have been sleeping outside. I love that I can get here and it doesn't take a lot, but when I show up at work I look like I got.
Speaker 3:Like. This is not the norm here. Y'all look beautiful PS.
Speaker 4:So do you Always. I've never seen you in your manatee onesie, but now it's a goal. Yeah, I want to see that too.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to go home and be authentically myself. We should have a onesie sleepover. Oh y'all come over. I got a heated pool.
Speaker 4:Yes, we will have a onesie sleepover.
Speaker 3:I will get in my swimsuit with you. Oh yeah, no, no, I'll do it. Yeah, but no, we just just like business. We give 100% whatever we're doing Right, and so that's just it. Doesn't I don't get burnt out, because we just love what we do.
Speaker 4:Well, I will say this though we are very careful about who we bring on, yes, and there was a time, actually recently, where we met with a client and we were so invested in it and after I was like I don't think that's going to fill our cup, yep. And so we also have learned that you can want all of the things and all of the dreams, but not every client and not every job can take you there, and so we do actually curate that carefully. That's good. I think that's like the biggest lesson. Like we're you know we're only a year into the two of us together like this, but like we're being very, isn't that funny?
Speaker 4:We have, but we really have never even had like a coffee. You and I had coffee before.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I know, yeah, but to be clear, I also don't drink coffee, so that's probably what we'll convert you.
Speaker 2:We could put a lot of cream and sugar in there.
Speaker 3:We're also very fortunate too, that if we can sense when the other one's kind of burnout or getting you know we're walking a tight line there we will say it yeah, we do. We're like I need a minute. So she'll cover what I can't do and vice versa. So that really makes it easier that we can pick up on that and you know tap each other in.
Speaker 2:Are most of your clients like a retainer? Or how does it hourly or per contract? Or how do you do it? It?
Speaker 3:really just depends. I mean when we truly say we don't have cookie cutter or anything.
Speaker 4:We really don't have cookie cutter. That's amazing. We build out.
Speaker 2:I mean we'll sit on the phone, we'll sit on, zoom, we'll sit down.
Speaker 4:There you go. Friends with everyone.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. We don't do the you know. Give them a cookie cutter proposal, it's more of like us in there. Well, what would this look like six months from now?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:What is their strategy? What is that going to look?
Speaker 2:like.
Speaker 4:Because we want to think end game have clients even who are like we have a local real estate agent who wants to learn how to do it herself. Nice, so her a la carte looks like we're really hands-on and then long term we eventually she won't be our client and we might come in for different pieces, but, like we truly do a la carte, we have clients who don't. It could be social media. They are never going to log in, they are never going to read a message, right? They are never going to respond to a comment and quite frankly, they trust you to handle it.
Speaker 4:Yes, and it's completely fine. So, like that's how my clients are too.
Speaker 2:It's like some of them are completely hands-on and I hear from them every half an hour, and then some I don't hear from at all. When I send them an invoice, they're like paid I'm, I hope you like it. I love being the voice for you.
Speaker 4:No it's nice. It's a good balance. We couldn't have every client behind needs, and I wouldn't feel amazing if every client was in low needs either. Right right, right right. I want some of that emotional support back here and there.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely. So what do you think is your strengths as an agency, because I know you both bring certain things to the table, like it's one, like more of a designer, more copywriter how's that all work?
Speaker 3:so I'm the nerd okay, I'm definitely the nerd. So I'm like I'm gonna deep dive into what is happening right now what does the? Demographic look like yep, you know what is that. Rewrite website copy. Rewriting website copy. Doing research.
Speaker 4:I'm a geek I out. I will be in the weeds so fast, if I have to do website copy oh yeah, but she's the creative.
Speaker 2:Now, do you use a lot of like chat, gpt and all that kind of thing in your strategy, or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would say a lot, I definitely it's a support tool. That's how I use it too.
Speaker 2:It's an idea tool for me Because I can spot it a mile away, yeah yeah, oh, 100% yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw one today from something earlier and I was like that is 100% copy and paste. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a tragedy, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:No, it's a tool. It's a tool, yeah, and what do you see coming up for like 2025? How are you like preparing for your clients?
Speaker 3:You know, I think it's just very overwhelming. I think marketing and life, to be quite honest, is very overwhelming. So we really try to simplify, no.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm in the industry and I'm like, oh my gosh, what is Instagram doing now? I can't not deal.
Speaker 2:I'm so tired of the elusive algorithm and like my clients texting me saying I don't think this is what the algorithm says and I'm like, oh, can I call the algorithm?
Speaker 3:and like, but it's everything and they can give me a heads up on what I need to change. I'm so over it, so you know what was your quote about trends.
Speaker 4:Oh. So I actually saw this quote yesterday. I was like, oh my gosh, it's a Karl Lagerfeld quote, okay, where it's like trendy is the last step before tacky, yeah. And I was like, okay, so then let's apply this to our mark, like, let's be careful, because there's always pressure, and actually we talked about resolutions yesterday in our podcast. We did A lot of pressure going into January for new strategies. Everyone wants you to lift the veil on some magical new. I'm having all these meetings right now.
Speaker 4:Yes and I don't think that that's the answer, like I don't need think we need to reinvent the wheel. I think we can take something specific or something we really want to impact and we can look at that closely, but I don't think that you hit the ground on January 1 and completely wipe out all your strategy there's absolutely no reason we try to pay really close attention to what the customer is responding to, sure, and just continue to tap into that, because every audience is different. Every product is different, right.
Speaker 3:We just the storytelling is not going to change there.
Speaker 2:No, and that's what I love. It's going to get more authentic, I think. Yes, how could it get possibly get any more authentic? I swear I was just like. I see Britney Spears one more time.
Speaker 3:Bless her heart.
Speaker 4:It's authentically prescribed.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's like, yeah People taking it to a whole other level.
Speaker 2:The fact that Instagram hasn't flagged any of this stuff is just wild to me. Give the people what they want. Oh yeah, good old, free Britney.
Speaker 4:But I know, is she free?
Speaker 3:I don't know, but I think, just the, I feel like you take it back even 20 years ago in marketing, just consistency, sure, Right, I mean, it's not, we're not reinventing the wheel here. No, it's basic sales, it's basic marketing, right, just taking it back to the basics.
Speaker 4:I just feel like it's these things, but I think that's where it gets inauthentic, yes, and I think with ChatGPT, with AI, we're seeing people really lean into that and I think our customers are going to respond to not using those tools.
Speaker 2:Good, truly, I would like to be employed.
Speaker 4:Oh, I really think. I think there's going to be people who use it for sure, right, but I don't think they're going to play in the same field as us, because I think there's a big difference between taking two abstract, made-up alien people and having them build a pool for one of our clients, right. When I can get a father and son out there, we can talk about all the stages of what that looks like. If you're buying a pool, you're not going to buy it from an alien, nope.
Speaker 2:Yes, 100% not.
Speaker 4:I think the more people make those tools and they're available, the more likely people are going to be to spend money with the people who aren't using them and show up every day in their business.
Speaker 2:Right, truly, I love it. Speaking of photography, do you go out there and take all those photos yourself?
Speaker 4:A lot of them. Yes, I love that. Good for you.
Speaker 3:One of my favorite things. We were on a shoot not too terribly long ago and she was like down on the ground laying down.
Speaker 4:I was in two rocks.
Speaker 3:You were about to fall in that pond. So like this, I mean she gets the shot. I love this. She's like Rebecca.
Speaker 4:Rebecca, I'm like if it's an angle up, like I'm down there, she's like okay, but your hair, Okay, I'm like it's going to be your hair.
Speaker 4:I's like, yeah, I think you were like trying to hold me by the back of my pants. You're like don't go in, don't go in. But I'm like, if I can get the shot myself, I would love to. For sure 100% and we work. I mean, we have places where we go where, like a hard hat is required. We can't necessarily send in. It has to be somebody who works with us that people are used to. We People are used to. We schedule it to come out or we come out as a team and like it's really important that, like they have our assurance that we're not going to touch anything we shouldn't, right, oh yeah, and that we're not going to get ourselves killed, right, and also that we're going to come and go as exactly how we said we are, and they're going to get the shot that they need.
Speaker 3:And it's a creative eye thing too, you know. I mean it's we see, like we'll see something simple and be like oh, that's a good story, we can say this, and it's just a different.
Speaker 2:We just prefer to do it Well. You've also built that trust and those relationships with your clients that you can just come in and do your thing.
Speaker 4:Just do our thing, just make stuff happen. Yeah, oh, a lot of our clients, no, no, they're doing their job.
Speaker 3:They're really busy, they're good at what they're doing and we're just there to supplement it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I love that we bridge the gap between what they create and who's purchasing it or who's consuming it. Right, and they don't know how to bridge that gap, because they're really good at what they do.
Speaker 2:I love that. You know this would never be my bag, but they're the best. They are the best. Oh, I love it. I'm like in like a Breaking Bad suit, like underneath the house in duck work, and I'm like this is awesome, you know.
Speaker 4:Well, I know it's so fun, it's so outside of like even how I grew up, or just being a girl. Sometimes I'm like, oh my God, give me the hammer. Oh yeah, I want to drive the truck. And they're like well, you need a special license. And I'm like, please.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Do I need a license today? I'm the same way I want so badly to get in. Everything's so pretty and like fun sometimes, right the machinery, like I could photograph this all day.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. I would love to know what construction companies y'all work for, because I have shout out to my ex-husband, tristan. He works for a big construction company. He may need y'all's help.
Speaker 4:But definitely it's like one of those things where we get in and every day they get in their truck and get out of their truck and use their tools and do whatever it is that they do and we're like, wow, yeah, but what they were doing, maybe, let's say, pool company, just for a great example, you see that all the finished pools Right, 24-7 finished pools on their Instagram or social or a billboard and I'm like there's so much more to a pool than the one day it looks pretty.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, at the very end.
Speaker 4:Like what are we doing here, folks? Right, like let's get messy, yeah, let's Talk about what it takes to get one.
Speaker 3:Like let's from start to finish and they just don't see it because you know it's hard to see the forest through the trees, right?
Speaker 2:Of course. Well, that's why they need the creatives to come in and tell the story Exactly.
Speaker 4:And we're in their showroom like this is pretty, this is pretty, this is pretty.
Speaker 2:Asking 3,000 questions. Oh, I love it. I bet, or they're probably like oh, here they come again.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, definitely there's a little bit of both. I feel that way a lot.
Speaker 2:They're like oh, here she comes, here she comes, perky girl.
Speaker 4:With a camera in my face. Isn't it funny how excited we all are, though. Oh, I love it. I'm like you walk in and it's like a whole, like we just Shania Twain'd your door open there you that you're showing the real people because you know how people use like stock images.
Speaker 2:They hire models for all their stuff. I would feel more comfortable like knowing the dude that's coming in by looking at their social media and their marketing, versus some random like some guy in the really clean press shirt.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, like he's never worked in construction.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, like I want to see the authentic people that are coming in my house, so I don't feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and a lot of them have stories too. I mean, you know, we met with a client the other day. He's like oh, my project manager's been with me for 30-plus years.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean, that's a story, that is a story.
Speaker 3:Because I think that speaks to his commitment to the company. I think it speaks to the company how good they are to their people.
Speaker 2:How serious they probably help with really hiring practices like you said, it makes you feel really connected to this city. Absolutely I'm not from here, but this definitely feels like home and it's awesome, like I was watching.
Speaker 4:I can't imagine leaving. No, so that's why I know it feels like home. No, no, I have to go to New.
Speaker 2:York a couple times a year but it's Well.
Speaker 4:you have a fun time when you're there, though, Dude.
Speaker 2:Again, you went to Carmine's right. Yep, absolutely, that's my favorite New York place.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, oh, yeah, love.
Speaker 2:New York. No, there's something special about Charleston Like living here is just awesome, but it's also nice to like bring some big city experience too.
Speaker 3:Like you know, you guys have worked with people all over, so Well, it's just nice too, I think, when you have children, specifically Again it's all about that.
Speaker 2:Community Like our kids live here. Oh my gosh, we shop at these businesses so. I mean we're in it.
Speaker 3:Right, 100%, and I think it just makes you fall in love with it that much more Right, because your kids are going to do the same thing.
Speaker 2:Now, do you ever bring your kids into any of your marketing?
Speaker 3:Because I've definitely brought Amelie in, like I bring her the creative director, right there you go. She has designed some clothing for us.
Speaker 4:I love this Yep so yeah, I mean they are. They've been on the podcast. Oh good, they have.
Speaker 3:Awesome. So they're very involved and I love that that they get to see that side of us.
Speaker 2:Yes, Because she is my biggest cheerleader. Give me some Clarks. She's so sweet, she's so sweet I'm a little biased.
Speaker 4:Everyone's kids are so sweet Well so and we talk a lot like we're, because, of course, we talk on every single platform 24-7. A hundred percent Literally, like multiple different Instagrams Sometimes.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh my gosh, I forgot I was on the Mayhem Instagram when we were having this conversation or we'll go back on all of these different things.
Speaker 4:And to the girls it sounds like one of us is coming over almost immediately. This happens a lot. We're like, oh, clark's coming over. I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 2:This was pre-recorded, honey.
Speaker 4:Or like we'll be literally talking right then and they'll see it, or they'll hear it, and it just sounds like because we're together so much, I'm like that's actually going to happen tomorrow. While you guys are at school and they're like you guys have all the fun without us.
Speaker 3:They're so invested though. Yeah, so invested. Biggest cheerleaders, biggest cheerleaders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now do y'all ever fight you two, because y'all are besties kind of now you become like really close friends.
Speaker 4:Okay, so two things about that. We are very close. We have we really, very early on in the podcast, we actually brought on a local relationship expert true story as and we had her talk to us.
Speaker 2:She's a couples therapist and, and she helps you all through your problems.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, we were like we actually brought you here because, like we want to know how to protect and preserve this relationship so that we can take really good care of it. That's very smart. Her name is Kirsten from Raising Marriage. She's local, she's incredible.
Speaker 2:I'll actually listen to this one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she's really good and so, but she actually talked a lot about like boundaries and how you problem solve and one of her really big things was like people come to the table to problem solve because they want to be heard, correct and they want to be correct and what you really need to do is just make sure that you both understand one another's concerns and we, like we know, first of all, it's both of our responsibilities to say I can't do this right now or I'm not in the mood for this right now, or I'm not in the headspace for this right now, right, whether it's just like life stuff, yeah, or dog chaos, or a work thing that we need an overnight to think about, sure, and on the few times we maybe haven't set that boundary, one of us is headed 10 minutes in because we're like, actually one of us is not in the best headspace for this and we honor that and we don't take it to bed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we really don't. It's just a lot, like I said, we're very good with the ebb and flow. Yeah, it's just really like, really good at it.
Speaker 4:she told us, if we're gonna have those, we have to be responsible for them, and so we really are like we don't sit there and hold on to stuff, we don't, we say it and we move on, and we both know that we're coming to the table with really, really, really good intentions and we honor that all the way through. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:I think it's important to have clients who understand that too.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:That is one of the many benefits of working for yourself is that if you're having a day, you know, and you have those relationships with your clients along like the world's not on fire, you can be like I need to take a beat. I'm working on this. I'll get back to you tomorrow on this tomorrow, which is like important to put up those boundaries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly but also talk about this a lot.
Speaker 2:Those realistic expectations for your clients, because I am horrible about like just someone calls me and I'm like jumping that's me, but you know, but I'm also like in my sweats, pants, working from home, so it could be so much worse, you know, right?
Speaker 3:so it's like again, the balance we're. We're so different in so many ways right foundationally, yes, what we believe in, how we work, our sense of humor like those things are the same, right like it. Just it's been a really good give and take for us, yeah, and I definitely recommend having a therapist help you there.
Speaker 4:You go we. I will say that, like that piece of the podcast, our ability to get people on to talk to these, like things that we actually are genuinely curious about, right has we literally got all of this self-growth this year for free. For free, yeah, I mean, it wasn't free because we put a lot of time and energy into it, of course, but you get such good little nuggets. It's amazing.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel about the Charter Marketing Podcast Right? Obviously, mike and I. Who's the co-host, who's not here today? But shout out to Mike we love you, we miss you, mike, we miss you Mike. You know when people leave because a lot of times they're our friends or people we know or obviously businesses that we're familiar with, but I leave like learning so much about them and I feel like, oh well, I'm inspired, I'm inspired, I'm going to go home and do that.
Speaker 4:It's been awesome. Yeah, so it's been Charleston is the biggest small town ever.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 4:It is. You could be all the way across the bridge and run into somebody from your backyard or have a conversation with somebody you've never met before. Yep, I mean, I, we all know it's the Kevin Bacon thing.
Speaker 3:We all know each other. Yeah For somebody.
Speaker 2:Yes absolutely which is good and bad? Yes, it's like oh.
Speaker 4:You have to be on your best behavior all the time. Oh, which is tough when you have a podcast where you talk about everything.
Speaker 2:All right Now tell me about the podcast. I want people who haven't tuned into your podcast talk about what they expect. Obviously, they're going to listen to our podcast and then go listen to your podcast.
Speaker 4:That marketing and mayhem, yes, so we definitely like to deliver some, like, really important content. There is a fair amount of mayhem, um, we keep it real. It says real.
Speaker 4:There is no script whatsoever when we boot up that mic you get we might have a focus or we'll have a guest and we'll talk about what they're amazing at, but we like, really like to get to know people. The heart of marketing is the nature of people, truly, and so we selfishly like can't get enough of getting to know people, like the minute you give me. We have this like joke between us. So I'm a runner, okay, and, um, I like to when I'm somewhere that I don't know right.
Speaker 4:I like to just take four left-hand turns because I assume that I'll get back. I mean, it's eventually going to be a square, Right right right, which when my parents realized that this is how I was planning my runs, they were extremely appalled. I'm sure they were so. Sometimes they're three miles and sometimes they're nine.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm like okay, but a left will get us there, right, right, the minute you give us a left, we're taking it like if you whether it's like a girl, mom or whatever the little nugget is we're like oh, wait, hold on, we're gonna, we're gonna dive into that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna touch it and go left again and left again.
Speaker 4:We'll bring it home but, like the, the heart of marketing is human nature and there's wine in your podcast.
Speaker 2:so yeah, there's sometimes there's not wine here, sometimes.
Speaker 3:So I would like to come. No, y'all brought me wine for my birthday. We brought you wine. Yes, hang on, steph.
Speaker 2:I know, get the opener. I cannot wait to have that in about half an hour there, you go. Perfect, there you go, but I would love to come on y'all's podcast Now. You had my girl, kim, on your podcast.
Speaker 3:We almost poisoned her. What Food poisoning?
Speaker 4:Well, food poisoning, no we actually we didn't know she do you know she has an allergy, a food allergy. That's pretty serious.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, we, neither did we. Kim Russo, you do not tell me this and she doesn't tell people.
Speaker 4:Uh-huh, and so it's a sesame oil allergy and we took her to a Vietnamese restaurant oh, the one by Walmart, bon Bon, and we didn't know. And she was like just so you know, there's very little on this menu and we literally like I was like Kim.
Speaker 2:This is really good information to have, kim to start off, but that's just the mayhem. That sums us up to a team which is crazy because I feel like Kim, of all people, is like super detail-oriented.
Speaker 4:She's a getter-donner she's like well. I't have picked any sort of Asian food, we would have taken you to Italian. Right right A lot of other options here in Mount Pleasant. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:I was like what if we? Kim is also on our AMA board and she's just killing it.
Speaker 3:She's killing it. We're so proud of her, I am so proud of her. We're team girl power. Oh, I know In every stretch of the imagination that's what I love about this city.
Speaker 2:You hear about women and you hear about imposter syndrome and you hear about women can be catty, especially in this tween age, goodness gracious with our children. There's a lot happening, but I feel like the Charleston marketing community has been very accepting of all of us. There's space for everybody. There's space for everybody and it's chemistry.
Speaker 4:Art is made with weirdos. You've got to everybody and it's chemistry. Art is made with weirdos.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I mean, you gotta get weird to make art.
Speaker 4:I love a weirdo, that's why we're here.
Speaker 3:That's what it is.
Speaker 2:It's all of us creativeness bond to each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's nice, I'm all about it, but you know a client that would choose you over another company. It's a chemistry?
Speaker 4:Is it like dating? Because I feel like I'm the only one dating right now and I don't know if that's my dating experience.
Speaker 3:You either feel it or you don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, we're on the hunt for her to find somebody.
Speaker 3:Good you should have heard our conversation just now at lunch I was like I think we should go to Home Depot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and like the Home Depot in Mount Pleasant, no one even does their own work. That's true. What are we going to do? And the Home Depot in Mount Pleasant?
Speaker 3:I'm like well go around and look for guys without wedding bands and then we'll ask them where like a drill is or something.
Speaker 2:You just need to go to Sky Zone on a Saturday.
Speaker 4:Oh, good call. So I can come away with hand, foot and mouth and the love of my life.
Speaker 2:Yay Odds are the dads are parked there, no offense to dads that are playing. And then you could, just you know they obviously like kids because they're at Sky Zone.
Speaker 3:I mean that's where I would go. That's not a bad idea, Steph. I mean, I'm rethinking Home Depot now. Oh yes, you know, I think it's got to be like, where are they?
Speaker 4:where are they? Where are they? Like flipping the tires or something? Casually oh there thing I do have. You live near Costco.
Speaker 3:This is what we do when you ask what the podcast is about. This is it.
Speaker 4:There is a really nice guy that runs this Glenn Glenn at the tire. You can't say I have a man Glenn's married, glenn helps me with my truck. Okay, glenn keeps. I like to like, not necessarily collect people, but like I love to make a friend Right and if you're going to look out for me, I'm all about that. So I'm very loyal to Glenn. Glenn put the tires in the truck. I go and see him to get him rotated. He talks me through what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Glenn at Costco.
Speaker 4:Costco for life.
Speaker 2:So this is a true story. This is related to you. I was at the Spark Awards AM name right now that owns a marketing agency with another person and I know that he's not married. So I just figured he was single but he's got a girlfriend. But I went right up to him and I'm like I have the perfect girl for you. I know exactly who you're talking about. Yes, y'all.
Speaker 3:How come I don't.
Speaker 2:He is taken, but we're happy for him.
Speaker 4:I love that you're looking out for me, though I do. I appreciate that, because I would actually like it to be like friend of a friend. I am on Hinge. It's actually terrifying, I can imagine.
Speaker 1:It is. I can attest it's scary.
Speaker 4:I want to validate you in that way, but I can't because it is actually crazy. You can have my phone after, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's insane. I'm remarried.
Speaker 4:That's true.
Speaker 2:So I did it when Ollie is around three. She's 10 now and it was not awesome.
Speaker 4:They say the craziest things to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I met Matthew through a friend, thank goodness, oh goodness. We touch my hinge all the time.
Speaker 3:We do, we talk about it all the time she's the one that changed mine too.
Speaker 4:So my, what is it? People are real mad about that. So it drops down, there's like a space and I'm like, listen to me, I love a great dinner, I love a nice bottle of wine. Sometimes you just got to hit the drive-thru for a crispy Diet Coke and a double cheeseburger, and you've got to get back to work and chasing your dreams. The amount of men middle-aged- men you'd be prettier if you didn't eat McDonald's, but it like weaves them out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it takes out the high maintenance men, so it was a great filter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm like a Chick-fil-A girl and Dr. Pepper all day long so like what's the difference?
Speaker 4:But if you're trying to match and you say you would be prettier if you didn't eat, McDonald's, you should say this.
Speaker 2:You should see these. We're too old to be get talked to like this. Come on now, people.
Speaker 4:I'm like so was I supposed to hit the plus sign and match you after that?
Speaker 2:No, you're going to meet. We've definitely taken a rail, but all the sweet marketing people who are listening. Rebecca is beautiful and smart and gifted and currently available. This drops. I'm like a puppy up for adoption.
Speaker 4:This drops in January Fade and neuter Five six. That might change Brownish blonde hair. The drop's in January A little bit yappy, but like sued.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's funny that Jenny and I had the same person in mind.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:I'm there with you, okay, it's fun. The whole balance of life is fun and the living in Charleston is fun, and being a marketer in Charleston is fun. And marketing for Charleston businesses is fun. It's an amazing city.
Speaker 4:It is we are obsessed with it truly. Yeah, I absolutely love it we feel lucky to be in the situation we're in. That's why I think that probably saves away the burnout. Back to that earlier question, because there's never a time where I mean maybe a situation isn't our favorite, right, but we don't base our emotions off situations. We feel lucky all the time to do what we do.
Speaker 3:Right, just like we were talking about before we started recording. You know we're very careful about protecting our home life too.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 3:Like we are foot to the gas all the time.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But I'm still PTA president. Oh yeah, you, I'm still PTA president oh yeah, I'm still showing up to school. I serve lunch on Mondays so.
Speaker 2:I volunteer with. This is a lunch lady. I am a lunch lady With no hairnet, by the way. No, I was really disappointed about that. Right, they didn't give you a hairnet. No, I was really bummed.
Speaker 4:But you would have looked very cute with that. I know that's. I went to a Christmas vacation party the other day and I chose Uncle.
Speaker 2:Lewis, I saw your pictures on Facebook. You looked adorable. They were very cute.
Speaker 4:I went as Uncle Lewis that was great, I was like I'm not going as one of the cute I want to be. Uncle Lewis, that looked like a fun party.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We just go all out. That's just the way we do things, but we're really careful. We want to work right you know there's nothing.
Speaker 2:If and you guys have been an agency together for like a year, do you think you'll have like more employees? Do you think?
Speaker 3:you'll grow like what's. As long as I don't have to manage them, I'm fine with that's the thing yeah, I also don't want to do that, and I am yeah we will grow, yeah, for sure we will, I'm happy to manage.
Speaker 4:That's like one of my favorite things.
Speaker 2:Oh good, it's all her. I don't want to do that at all. Like I said, we're such a good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you'd be surprised how much we, once one of us takes something and we show the strength in it. To be honest with you, it's very unlikely that I'm the one that answers the email. I text him and be like did you see that? I'm like I did. What does it say? Yeah, yeah, and I'll see the notification come through. But she has that same thing that you have where she's like opens it as soon as it comes.
Speaker 4:Yeah or answers it as soon as it comes and I'm like, if it's a phone call where we still need to like partner and how we're going to answer that phone call, it has to wait a second Probably going to get a response from Jenny. If you get an email from me, it's probably behind your computer or it's like something more serious. Yes, yeah, because that tends to be where I like. That's part of my role.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, now are most of the businesses coming to you, or how are you doing your advertising?
Speaker 4:Yeah, we've been really lucky, actually, we've been really lucky.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's a no people. Well, reputation says something, it does, and you know we just we're out there, we talk about it and you know, you probably see our socials like, are they there or are they a lot Like we? Just we don't. I'm the same way with my own.
Speaker 2:Instagram page. It's rough, but I'm very active Because we're working on all of our clients' pages, it's like you can, only you know here I am cooperating in my onesie.
Speaker 4:You know like no one wants to see that, but maybe they do I don't know, it's hard the first time you do it and then after that you're like but mine has been chaotic forever.
Speaker 3:So I'm like I it's part of your charm. Yeah, We've had Erin Kinzel, who's a friend on here. And she's like so great at it and I'm like she's a rock star, she's. Oh, she's a rock star, she is, she's, but I don't think it has to be for everybody.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be honest with you like we talk about this.
Speaker 4:I'm like we don't do social for every client. That's just not my. You don't. Okay, not necessarily. Yeah, it depends where they're at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right we mean where they are exactly.
Speaker 4:Yeah yeah, but I don't love it.
Speaker 3:I don't love it like you'll get dog pics, kid pics, oh yeah, I'll throw in some food.
Speaker 2:But that's about it, that's it now, people are going to listen to this podcast and they're going to want to hire you. So what are you looking? You're like, oh okay, hey, I knew you would like that.
Speaker 3:What is your vibe? And do you eat mcdonald's?
Speaker 2:that's right and they're a long point at chick-fil-A if you would like to accidentally run into them, Literally we're either at like oh gosh, Burton's, Burton's Opal. Oh, I like Opal.
Speaker 4:We really like to. Yeah, I would say as far as clients and restaurants. That's how big our breadth is, Somewhere between McDonald's and Opal. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what kind of clients are you looking for in the new year, as you grow and expand, because you know you're going to do those things, that's a good question.
Speaker 3:The answer is very subjective, but I would say just people who align with who we are as people who are fine not being so serious, correct Yep who understand that they do have a story to tell and understand that marketing is important. Right, there's a lot of companies you know who don't necessarily see the value in it because it kind of feels like this intangible yeah it's abstract, the elusive thing, very abstract. So we like people who get it, who know at least that much.
Speaker 4:That it has value. Teaching somebody value is not our favorite thing. Oh, it's hard Because there's a lot of people who don't want to spend money on marketing. Yes, and so like that conversation is the hardest, we're happy to have it. But like teaching the value, like we can give you the value for sure, but like if you come to us and you are dead set on not seeing the value, we probably aren't going to fully align anyways.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's really important to us, like integrity, like all of those things. We are very selective with who we take. That's why I say we're like boutique style agency, sure, because we're very selective about who we work with, which is funny.
Speaker 4:So we have found this niche right now that we are loving, and it is very much the construction industry. I love it. We wear the work boots, we show up in jeans or leggings and we get the job done.
Speaker 3:It's so much fun, the work boots like we show up in jeans or leggings and like we get the job done.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's so much fun and again.
Speaker 3:That's one of the reasons it's called gritty gal yes that's the kind of girls that we are.
Speaker 4:We are people who roll up our sleeves, who aren't scared to get dirty and get in there, get in a duck pond to take pictures like yeah, but where you just go to work, we literally walk in, whether it's like a home renovation or whatever it is, and and we're like there's so much content here, there's so much story.
Speaker 4:Like we could spend all year there. So like that for us is really soul-filling too. Like those teams appreciate us, we appreciate them back and we can see this huge global perspective for them that they can't. And then they love that too, because they're like I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I mean, like we love that, that little light bulb that they see they're like, oh, that's a good idea, yeah, we were in a meeting the other day about pools and she was like what do you mean about pool maintenance?
Speaker 4:Like pollen season is coming?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I have a pool People come every week, all the questions.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, bt caption and the chat suggestion Once or twice a year, with all the bullet points With all the emojis, all the emojis just rock my world.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh, here we go. Yeah, it's tough though.
Speaker 4:It's pretty funny, though. We have moments that we had a conversation where we were talking to an older client, right, I mean, we're in the construction industry and he says that he's on social, but he never sees his content, and it wasn't our content yet this was an initial discovery conversation, sure, and we were like, oh, what do you watch? And I was like, do you typically watch the videos? Do you watch the reels? And he was like, yeah, I love them. I was like, well, you don't have any. Yeah, so you actually aren't ever going.
Speaker 1:Oh, Well, that would make sense.
Speaker 4:I hate that that didn't length until we had to sit down together.
Speaker 2:But like, and your last post was in January- yeah, no, it's all about consistency and it's wild, but that's why we're all employed which is great, Absolutely, but their lives move as fast as us too which was also one of my points, like when you're in that, like they're so in it that everything happens so quickly.
Speaker 4:We could go to a site you know typically every other week and we'll see it change exponentially, right, like why didn't you? Call us. Yeah, like our contract might be every other week, but like we're here to help. What do we miss? You know like, oh, we feel cheated.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:We missed some of this where you're mostly invested, but they're going so fast that the year flies for them just as much as it does for us, right, right?
Speaker 1:And I'm like.
Speaker 4:I get that, yeah, when you're really good at your job, that happens, that's right Time flies.
Speaker 2:I love that you're highlighting industries that aren't necessarily getting the love Right, yeah. That you're making them cool, yeah, which I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, it's in both of our families. Right Okay, truly yeah Okay. I've been in construction here. It feels like a shared passion. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:My brothers are the roll up the sleeves Like we like to get in there. Okay, yeah, we love it.
Speaker 2:So the key takeaway is they like to roll up their sleeves and they're going to get in there. We're going to get in. They're going to get in the pond and be held by the ankle with the rock we might be coming at their face, but they're not going to drop that camera.
Speaker 4:We might be showing up in sneakers and ponytails, based on what your construction site is at but we're going to do it.
Speaker 3:And we have a good time. But just to be clear, we are serious about what we do.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 3:You have to love what you do, so that translates to your customer.
Speaker 2:Yes, it does so. They buy from you.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's really, that's what it's about.
Speaker 4:And we do. I mean we do laugh a lot, so it could be easily mistaken as whatever, but life is hard and so we have just decided to choose joy and let the funny stuff be funny, because some of this actually is ridiculous Absolutely. You know're like, well, that was wild. And then you move on and then we move on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're building these great relationships and great communities and having fun yeah. That's awesome. Well, you guys are awesome. I know we've talked for like an hour, but I could just keep talking to you forever. It's so easy because it's like we're having the best time ever. So, yeah, I love that you're just like doing at all. You're being like these role models for your families and you're also, like you know, helping the community. It's just pretty awesome.
Speaker 4:Well, same back to you. Yeah, really I was like if anyone understands this as deeply as we do. Like how are we ever going to explain this to you. You're in it too. I know we're probably somewhere holding hands shaking in a corner. Oh yeah, Are we okay?
Speaker 2:But I think it's important to highlight like, like. Sometimes all these solopreneurs or like teams feel like they're on an island on their own. But like we're all going through the same pains, absolutely. But it's just. It's so awesome, it's so worth it at the end of the day, yeah.
Speaker 4:It is nice to know that there are other people in the pond, though, for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, that validation of like.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, becca's hanging off the side of it.
Speaker 4:Oh, I love it. Yeah, with my camera.
Speaker 2:You need. I want to check your Instagram later and like have the hard hats and like the suits, and like be in the I'm expecting there.
Speaker 4:You'll see, I was like we. I just got a puppy and I'm like, oh my gosh, how fun would it be when she gets mature enough that she can like, come in the truck.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And go to the job sites and then she acts like probably be so cute. Yeah, she's so cute, she's so nice and sweet but, she is naughty. Well, she's little I know, but you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you, Stephanie.
Speaker 2:This was a fun. It was a fun.
Speaker 3:Yes, you're going to come on ours next. Oh, I'm coming, I'm excited, and then we'll bring Mike because we miss.
Speaker 2:Mike, do you have any food allergies? We need to be concerned.
Speaker 4:Please tell us I do not.
Speaker 2:I do not like beets, Right Mom.
Speaker 3:No beets.
Speaker 4:I actually don't love beets either. We can't get a good company.
Speaker 3:I don't like sour cream.
Speaker 2:for whatever reason, I'm not the biggest fan of sour cream, but otherwise I'm good to enjoyed it as much as I did but before we leave, we need to do that due diligence of thanking our incredible sponsors. What's up there, buddy? Charles, steele Radio Group Studios, jerry Feels Good, of course, the DJ at the front of the beats and the American Marketing Association. We need to get you guys to some AMA events with me, I would love to have y'all Love an event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, guys, until next time. Thank you for being with us. Charleston Ladies, let's say bye, bye.
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